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DesiGuy
09-17 10:58 AM
folks, we have come this far, let's be optimist and patient.
there are only 5 ot 6 (judicairy) members, but the front benches seem full (with chatty ppl)
no volume though
there are only 5 ot 6 (judicairy) members, but the front benches seem full (with chatty ppl)
no volume though
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girijas
06-18 12:44 PM
I have started taking printouts of the instructions and handing it to people - hoping that will increase the probability of them calling. Also, ask friends at work to call even if they already have their GC or citizenship. If you are a couple, both of you can call separately.
If you feel odd talking to people you don't know, at least call late at night and leave a message. Leave a short message. It will count as much as talking to a person live. Mentioning you belong to Immigrationvoice seems to help.
If you feel odd talking to people you don't know, at least call late at night and leave a message. Leave a short message. It will count as much as talking to a person live. Mentioning you belong to Immigrationvoice seems to help.
DallasBlue
07-10 01:32 PM
Greg's comments on his blog
" In most cases, I think filing the adjustment would be the smart decision. But I can't advise on your case without knowing all the background.
Posted by: Greg Siskind | July 10, 2007 at 08:10 AM "
" In most cases, I think filing the adjustment would be the smart decision. But I can't advise on your case without knowing all the background.
Posted by: Greg Siskind | July 10, 2007 at 08:10 AM "
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gc_on_demand
03-11 03:58 PM
If figures provided to Senator are true and way Govt agencies working right now. I think first they will Put hard rule for Eb2 qualification. So almost they can shut door for Eb2. They may only allow 20k orless Eb2 in a year. For next 2 years no more spill over to Eb3. That way they can make Eb2 complete clear and becasue of tough policies it will remain C forever.
now in 2011 Eb3 will get almost major chunk of spill and it will clear Eb3 in next 2-3 years. Also new Eb2 and Eb3 will be stuck at labor and I 140 stage meanwhile. I am expecting that they may come up with new policy that if person does not have approved I 140 , cannot file I 485.
So People will be stuck at all 3 stages of GC. almost 8-12 months on each stage.This way they can remove almost 80 % backlog. Total will be 4 year to clean 80 % backlog. After 2013 there wll be only 200k pending 485 will be with them. Which is nice for them to approve 140k out of them easily in a year and leave 60k in a given year.
USCIS cannot wait for politician to increase visa number. If something happen meanwhile like CIR or new point based system then its a different story.
now in 2011 Eb3 will get almost major chunk of spill and it will clear Eb3 in next 2-3 years. Also new Eb2 and Eb3 will be stuck at labor and I 140 stage meanwhile. I am expecting that they may come up with new policy that if person does not have approved I 140 , cannot file I 485.
So People will be stuck at all 3 stages of GC. almost 8-12 months on each stage.This way they can remove almost 80 % backlog. Total will be 4 year to clean 80 % backlog. After 2013 there wll be only 200k pending 485 will be with them. Which is nice for them to approve 140k out of them easily in a year and leave 60k in a given year.
USCIS cannot wait for politician to increase visa number. If something happen meanwhile like CIR or new point based system then its a different story.
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gc_chahiye
07-26 12:13 AM
I am on my 7th yr extension of H1B and my lawyer has told me that once I apply for 485, I can NOT keep renewing my H1B. That is why he insisted on applying for AP.
whats your PD? Is your I-140 approved?
You can get extensions even after the I-485 is filed. The only grey area is if your I-140 is not approved AND your LC PD is < 365 days.
if I-140 is approved, you should get a 3 year extension (AC21 seems to imply you get an extension only if you cant apply for AOS, but USCIS has been interpreting that as if they cant grant you AOS due to PD not being current). A couple of my friends with non current PD and 485 pending for a while have got 3 year extensions
whats your PD? Is your I-140 approved?
You can get extensions even after the I-485 is filed. The only grey area is if your I-140 is not approved AND your LC PD is < 365 days.
if I-140 is approved, you should get a 3 year extension (AC21 seems to imply you get an extension only if you cant apply for AOS, but USCIS has been interpreting that as if they cant grant you AOS due to PD not being current). A couple of my friends with non current PD and 485 pending for a while have got 3 year extensions
legalVoice
04-29 06:01 PM
How much has been collected so far?
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mallu
12-03 05:52 PM
I heard that it needs to be at least 21 months to be able to win the law sue...and suing them might not work anymore when my pending time is qualified.
If someone else with similar names/same birthdays commited a crime, why do we need to suffer as a possibly "HIT"?
If I were to wait for 4 years for Name Check, I rather be the person commiting the crime so they can reject my I485 instantly.
-Frank
:cool::cool::cool:
They will allow the applicants for N number of years ( it is not as a favor to the applicant but as favor to the US businesses that employ them ) to work and roam around and won't give the benefit in the name of namecheck clearance. The term blockheads were invented for these.
If someone else with similar names/same birthdays commited a crime, why do we need to suffer as a possibly "HIT"?
If I were to wait for 4 years for Name Check, I rather be the person commiting the crime so they can reject my I485 instantly.
-Frank
:cool::cool::cool:
They will allow the applicants for N number of years ( it is not as a favor to the applicant but as favor to the US businesses that employ them ) to work and roam around and won't give the benefit in the name of namecheck clearance. The term blockheads were invented for these.
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kubmilegaGC
09-15 10:54 PM
Recd the CPO E mail today @ 7 PM EDT - 9/15 from TSC
EB2- June 04
Attorney Sent a Letter to AILA liason on 8/20
Called TSC on 8/27/ - Opened a SR
Called TSC again on 9/3 - CSR told me that they sent a reply for the SR opened on 8/27
Recd the SR - reply on 9/4/09 stating that " your Application processing is pending/delayed"
Called Senator office on 9/9/09 and sent fax
Called Senator office on 9/14/09 - Liason officer told me that it will take 30 to 60 days to get the response.
Called other Senator office on 9/14/09 , Sent the fax
Called again to II Senator office on 9/15/09, I was told to call back after 15 days to get the respose
Called TSC again on 9/15/09 around 4.45 PM EDT, Talked CSR , So nice , she eve discussed about the weather , summer time events etc, I told her about the letter I have recd for my SR ( 8/29), she asked if it mentioned any time frame, And i told her "No", then she said it is very unusaul and tranferred my call to the officer,
1st he told me the current processing time is 9/07/07 and my ND is 9/28/07 so my application has a 21 days lag, Then I told him that my application has mailed on 8/7/09, I also mentioned about the letter i received for SR, then he started asking questions about the receipt # and case details
The the officer verified following details
My first name,
Last name,
Address, Zip code, Door #,
fathers first name
mothers first name,
4 Digit SSN
and then told me that your case is under review with an officer from 8/29/08( Then I realized both of us had a Soft LUD on our application on 8/29/08) , I told him about that, the he said yes it is , it is related to the interal process. Then I asked him that What can i do now, He said, Keep your faith and finger crossed asked to me keep on calling USCIS TSC office every week to check about my case.
I really don't know whether he is playing with me or what.
what ever it is I got the CPO e mail @ 7 PM EDT
10 Yr wait is over.
Thank you all, I am not going away, Tristate leadership knows me very well, and I will be involved all the effort of the IV
@natraj - YOU ARE THERE. I remember my afternoon emails and our exchange ...How life can change in few hours :) GREAT NEWS - Congratulations on getting GREEN ...so there is still hope for June 04...:)
Back to counting hours for my ongoing torture...:) USCIS willing!
EB2- June 04
Attorney Sent a Letter to AILA liason on 8/20
Called TSC on 8/27/ - Opened a SR
Called TSC again on 9/3 - CSR told me that they sent a reply for the SR opened on 8/27
Recd the SR - reply on 9/4/09 stating that " your Application processing is pending/delayed"
Called Senator office on 9/9/09 and sent fax
Called Senator office on 9/14/09 - Liason officer told me that it will take 30 to 60 days to get the response.
Called other Senator office on 9/14/09 , Sent the fax
Called again to II Senator office on 9/15/09, I was told to call back after 15 days to get the respose
Called TSC again on 9/15/09 around 4.45 PM EDT, Talked CSR , So nice , she eve discussed about the weather , summer time events etc, I told her about the letter I have recd for my SR ( 8/29), she asked if it mentioned any time frame, And i told her "No", then she said it is very unusaul and tranferred my call to the officer,
1st he told me the current processing time is 9/07/07 and my ND is 9/28/07 so my application has a 21 days lag, Then I told him that my application has mailed on 8/7/09, I also mentioned about the letter i received for SR, then he started asking questions about the receipt # and case details
The the officer verified following details
My first name,
Last name,
Address, Zip code, Door #,
fathers first name
mothers first name,
4 Digit SSN
and then told me that your case is under review with an officer from 8/29/08( Then I realized both of us had a Soft LUD on our application on 8/29/08) , I told him about that, the he said yes it is , it is related to the interal process. Then I asked him that What can i do now, He said, Keep your faith and finger crossed asked to me keep on calling USCIS TSC office every week to check about my case.
I really don't know whether he is playing with me or what.
what ever it is I got the CPO e mail @ 7 PM EDT
10 Yr wait is over.
Thank you all, I am not going away, Tristate leadership knows me very well, and I will be involved all the effort of the IV
@natraj - YOU ARE THERE. I remember my afternoon emails and our exchange ...How life can change in few hours :) GREAT NEWS - Congratulations on getting GREEN ...so there is still hope for June 04...:)
Back to counting hours for my ongoing torture...:) USCIS willing!
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53885
05-24 02:32 PM
Read this one.
http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=199701487&pgno=1&queryText=
Oracle clearly said that if they can not bring people here, they will send work to one their global offices.
As with the proposed bill Microsoft and others will be labeled "H1B dependent employer"
Most of the big firms Oracle, MICrosoft, Lehman etc..all the big ones are full of H1B people. ..
http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=199701487&pgno=1&queryText=
Oracle clearly said that if they can not bring people here, they will send work to one their global offices.
As with the proposed bill Microsoft and others will be labeled "H1B dependent employer"
Most of the big firms Oracle, MICrosoft, Lehman etc..all the big ones are full of H1B people. ..
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vamsi_poondla
11-06 02:28 PM
Well Said! I support you 100% and agree with you totally about this. Fraud is any program is unfair and unjust on everybody, including the H1 holders themselves.
Your company is not a sample of the entire population. The H1B program is not on-demand program. It is once in an year annual event (because of the demand). US based companies when they get a new project which needs a position, if they cannot hire locally, cannot get H1B worker from overseas when they want. So, in anticipatory mode they have to get some numbers and utilize them and we do lose some H1B visas if they cannot bring them for various reasons.
Is it fair, may not be. Is it widespread waste, I don't think so.
Coming to market reality - how many US workers will join a desi consultancy company or India operations based company?
Your company is not a sample of the entire population. The H1B program is not on-demand program. It is once in an year annual event (because of the demand). US based companies when they get a new project which needs a position, if they cannot hire locally, cannot get H1B worker from overseas when they want. So, in anticipatory mode they have to get some numbers and utilize them and we do lose some H1B visas if they cannot bring them for various reasons.
Is it fair, may not be. Is it widespread waste, I don't think so.
Coming to market reality - how many US workers will join a desi consultancy company or India operations based company?
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piyushmittal
07-11 10:21 PM
[QUOTE=sachug22;261611]We know:
EB1 and EB2-ROW was current the whole year, which means there are not many pending+ready cases.
They have used all EB3 visas.
What they are left with is 20,000 visas(10-15% of 140,000 since more than 80% was used in first 3 quarters). This will be mostly for EB2 India/China.
They may not have enough pending+ready application for pre-april-2004 (previous VB). So they had to moved the date forward to get enough applicantions not to waste the numbers.
I think the above reasoning is right. They have many visa numbers left and also have visa numbers spilling from EB1. They dont want to waste it (finally!!) thus moved the date forward to approve many visa quickly as they did June 2007 before July fiasco. They approved 30-40 K applications at that time.
EB1 and EB2-ROW was current the whole year, which means there are not many pending+ready cases.
They have used all EB3 visas.
What they are left with is 20,000 visas(10-15% of 140,000 since more than 80% was used in first 3 quarters). This will be mostly for EB2 India/China.
They may not have enough pending+ready application for pre-april-2004 (previous VB). So they had to moved the date forward to get enough applicantions not to waste the numbers.
I think the above reasoning is right. They have many visa numbers left and also have visa numbers spilling from EB1. They dont want to waste it (finally!!) thus moved the date forward to approve many visa quickly as they did June 2007 before July fiasco. They approved 30-40 K applications at that time.
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unitednations
03-31 12:06 PM
UnitedNations,
Whatever be the shift in policy, they cannot go against the AC21 law, which is if the job is in similar classification then the applicant can use portability if the underlying I-140 is revoked. Also you must have seen the latest yates memo , link, http://www.uscis.gov/files/pressrelease/AC21Intrm122705.pdf
If you see Q.11 it asks,
Question 11. When is an I-140 no longer valid for porting purposes?
Answer: An I-140 is no longer valid for porting purposes when:
A. an I-140 is withdrawn before the alien�s I-485 has been pending 180 days, or
B. an I-140 is denied or revoked at any time except when it is revoked based on a withdrawal that was submitted after an I-485 has been pending for 180 days.
Answer B seems pretty vague. How do you interpret this?
Also can you tell, if the case you are referring to is based in TSC or NSC. I have seen cases where TSC applicants are facing this kind of situations more.
We have to understand that there is a myriad of laws; INA, CFR's; USCIS policy binding memos; internal memos; appeals decisions, court cases, precedent aao decisions, precedent legal cases.
Now; the ac21 memo is a memo that uscis officers have to follow. However; the memo is not in accordanc with INA 245 or AC21.
INA 245 states that a valid and approved 140 is needed for a person to get lawful permanent residency.
ac21 says that a person can change jobs after 485 has been pending for more then 180 days.
The above two things are the law.
In ac21 law; it doesn't say anything about the scenario if 140 is revoked by employer. It is totally silent to it.
USCIS in their memos realized that ac21 law would not have any meaning if the employer still controlled the 140 if a person was eligible for ac21; therefore, they issued the memo (memo is not law but binding; memos can be changed; however, there has been nothing public about any possible change).
Memo is clarification which they have been following for many years and as far as I know still binding.
Whatever be the shift in policy, they cannot go against the AC21 law, which is if the job is in similar classification then the applicant can use portability if the underlying I-140 is revoked. Also you must have seen the latest yates memo , link, http://www.uscis.gov/files/pressrelease/AC21Intrm122705.pdf
If you see Q.11 it asks,
Question 11. When is an I-140 no longer valid for porting purposes?
Answer: An I-140 is no longer valid for porting purposes when:
A. an I-140 is withdrawn before the alien�s I-485 has been pending 180 days, or
B. an I-140 is denied or revoked at any time except when it is revoked based on a withdrawal that was submitted after an I-485 has been pending for 180 days.
Answer B seems pretty vague. How do you interpret this?
Also can you tell, if the case you are referring to is based in TSC or NSC. I have seen cases where TSC applicants are facing this kind of situations more.
We have to understand that there is a myriad of laws; INA, CFR's; USCIS policy binding memos; internal memos; appeals decisions, court cases, precedent aao decisions, precedent legal cases.
Now; the ac21 memo is a memo that uscis officers have to follow. However; the memo is not in accordanc with INA 245 or AC21.
INA 245 states that a valid and approved 140 is needed for a person to get lawful permanent residency.
ac21 says that a person can change jobs after 485 has been pending for more then 180 days.
The above two things are the law.
In ac21 law; it doesn't say anything about the scenario if 140 is revoked by employer. It is totally silent to it.
USCIS in their memos realized that ac21 law would not have any meaning if the employer still controlled the 140 if a person was eligible for ac21; therefore, they issued the memo (memo is not law but binding; memos can be changed; however, there has been nothing public about any possible change).
Memo is clarification which they have been following for many years and as far as I know still binding.
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anzerraja
07-19 06:16 PM
Sounds good.
Zooooom ?? Do you want to open the thread (please add the important points of the conversation going on this thread as your first message, so we can repeat that over and again for people who join later).
Zoooom & Anzerraja:
The core membership may be modest and may not want to speak out much on this issue. It becomes our prerogative to drive this.
Lets do this. Zooom do you mind opening a separate thread, "Reimburse past expenses to Aman & other IV Core members" or something like that. Please post a message asking people to "pledge" an amount towards that effort. Can you two drive this effort. I am also available for assistance.
We will update members who pledge how to finalize their pledge by any of the following methods based on subsequent expert advice:
1) Should they contribute to IV directly
2) Send a personal check to Aman.
3) Other method like IV reimbursing Aman and others from the common donation corpus.
Zooooom ?? Do you want to open the thread (please add the important points of the conversation going on this thread as your first message, so we can repeat that over and again for people who join later).
Zoooom & Anzerraja:
The core membership may be modest and may not want to speak out much on this issue. It becomes our prerogative to drive this.
Lets do this. Zooom do you mind opening a separate thread, "Reimburse past expenses to Aman & other IV Core members" or something like that. Please post a message asking people to "pledge" an amount towards that effort. Can you two drive this effort. I am also available for assistance.
We will update members who pledge how to finalize their pledge by any of the following methods based on subsequent expert advice:
1) Should they contribute to IV directly
2) Send a personal check to Aman.
3) Other method like IV reimbursing Aman and others from the common donation corpus.
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cellphone
04-20 03:51 PM
ignore :D
whatever the case is, this guy is doing it legally. Granted, he is taking advantage of the loop hole in the system. HOWEVER, it is legal. Trust me, we have taken advantage of several similar system loops holes in our lives.
Everything is fair game as long as it is legal.
whatever the case is, this guy is doing it legally. Granted, he is taking advantage of the loop hole in the system. HOWEVER, it is legal. Trust me, we have taken advantage of several similar system loops holes in our lives.
Everything is fair game as long as it is legal.
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seekerofpeace
09-14 11:48 PM
Why was there not a choice for luck or fate.........
SDRBLR,
How did you send an email to TSC streamline? My case is at TSC and we are half done...primary approved and dependent pending...told biometrics issue by lawyer thru AILA but as far as these forums go biometrics don't hold an approval otherwise I won't have been approved. i guess we carry the curse of transfered cases...mine was TSC-CSC-TSC
Thanks,
SoP
SDRBLR,
How did you send an email to TSC streamline? My case is at TSC and we are half done...primary approved and dependent pending...told biometrics issue by lawyer thru AILA but as far as these forums go biometrics don't hold an approval otherwise I won't have been approved. i guess we carry the curse of transfered cases...mine was TSC-CSC-TSC
Thanks,
SoP
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karsat
10-16 10:06 PM
My NC has been pending my I485 has been filed in Sep 2005
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rongch60
10-29 04:43 PM
caliguy
Could you please send me the letter that you sent to Sec. NAPOLITANO-. My e-mail address is rongch60@gmail.com.
Thank you.
Ron
Could you please send me the letter that you sent to Sec. NAPOLITANO-. My e-mail address is rongch60@gmail.com.
Thank you.
Ron
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SGP
03-30 05:36 PM
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$GOOD AFTERNOON GC$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Deadline = April 30th, 2011
Goal = 5000 votes on survey (see I-485 filing w/o current PD thread) and momentum to continue with this campaign.The survey is a platform to gather and push for launching action items. Based on response by 04/30/2011 - IV will decide whether to even proceed with initiative or not.
Actions - 1) Vote on survey.
2)Email ivcoordinator@gmail.com with PD, ph#,email & subject "I485 filing impacted�,
3)Print/Circulate Fliers and spread FB, wiki link (see "support thread")
Dear IV Members,
If you believe that your success depends on your immigration process - whether it's the ability to file I-485 earlier or to get green-card and citizenship sooner or whether it's the ability of your spouse to work - then you have to believe that your success somehow depends on the success of Immigration voice and these 170 volunteers in DC next week.
As you may know, we are just one more week away from hosting Advocacy day in Washington DC where about 170 members of Immigration Voice will conduct nearly 250 meetings with offices of Senators and Congressmen. Such events cost money. If we have enough contributions, we can spend as per our budget of nearly $ 50,000. If not, we will have to cut back on the event spending and reduce the magnitude and size of the event.
If you are not coming to DC next week, please do your part and contribute funds to Immigration Voice. It not only finances the event properly, it instills pride and confidence in the members who will be there in DC that there are thousands of willing supporters behind them who could not be there physically but are 100% with them in their determination and resolve.
For background click here -> Announcement about April 2011 Advocacy Days (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum85-action-items-for-everyone/1901186-action-item-advocacy-days-in-washington-dc-in-april-2011-a.html#post2301599)
Contribute to Advocacy Event on the Capitol Hill (http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=44#onetimepaypal) (All one-time contributions will go towards organizing the Advocacy Days event)
Deadline = April 30th, 2011
Goal = 5000 votes on survey (see I-485 filing w/o current PD thread) and momentum to continue with this campaign.The survey is a platform to gather and push for launching action items. Based on response by 04/30/2011 - IV will decide whether to even proceed with initiative or not.
Actions - 1) Vote on survey.
2)Email ivcoordinator@gmail.com with PD, ph#,email & subject "I485 filing impacted�,
3)Print/Circulate Fliers and spread FB, wiki link (see "support thread")
Dear IV Members,
If you believe that your success depends on your immigration process - whether it's the ability to file I-485 earlier or to get green-card and citizenship sooner or whether it's the ability of your spouse to work - then you have to believe that your success somehow depends on the success of Immigration voice and these 170 volunteers in DC next week.
As you may know, we are just one more week away from hosting Advocacy day in Washington DC where about 170 members of Immigration Voice will conduct nearly 250 meetings with offices of Senators and Congressmen. Such events cost money. If we have enough contributions, we can spend as per our budget of nearly $ 50,000. If not, we will have to cut back on the event spending and reduce the magnitude and size of the event.
If you are not coming to DC next week, please do your part and contribute funds to Immigration Voice. It not only finances the event properly, it instills pride and confidence in the members who will be there in DC that there are thousands of willing supporters behind them who could not be there physically but are 100% with them in their determination and resolve.
For background click here -> Announcement about April 2011 Advocacy Days (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum85-action-items-for-everyone/1901186-action-item-advocacy-days-in-washington-dc-in-april-2011-a.html#post2301599)
Contribute to Advocacy Event on the Capitol Hill (http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=44#onetimepaypal) (All one-time contributions will go towards organizing the Advocacy Days event)
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GCard_Dream
01-31 11:29 AM
I haven't read anywhere about what would happen to existing approved labors but since they can no longer be substituted, my understanding is that they can only be used for the original beneficiary. If that person has left the company then that labor is just trash.
This should help because lot of people who have moved to other companies after the labor was approved, those labors will just be useless and taken out of circulation.
If this law does not apply to existing labors, we will still be in the same situation. BTW, what is a desi company. How come it can sell labors? Is selling labor legal?
This should help because lot of people who have moved to other companies after the labor was approved, those labors will just be useless and taken out of circulation.
If this law does not apply to existing labors, we will still be in the same situation. BTW, what is a desi company. How come it can sell labors? Is selling labor legal?
desi485
11-10 06:39 PM
I don't think this is true. But you put a seed of doubt in my mind, I will confirm with my attorney :)
ItIsNotFunny, please DO SHARE once you are able to get some insight from your attorney. Meanwhile, I printed out AC21 IV campaign letters and went to each of my co-worker at my work-site and convinced them to send it. Hopefully atleast some of them will send it. Thanks for your effort on behalf of our "descriminated based on country of birth community" :)
ItIsNotFunny, please DO SHARE once you are able to get some insight from your attorney. Meanwhile, I printed out AC21 IV campaign letters and went to each of my co-worker at my work-site and convinced them to send it. Hopefully atleast some of them will send it. Thanks for your effort on behalf of our "descriminated based on country of birth community" :)
sc3
09-24 12:21 AM
so let me understand it, you are saying that you don't agree with something that's why it has got to be wrong. Its not wrong because it is wrong, but its wrong because you don't support it. Is that right? And because you don't support it, it has got to be unfair and that's why its wrong. Isn't that what you just said?
I did not use to word wrong, so dont try to setup strawman arguments. I used the word unfair. And using the reverse argument that you use. It ain't "right" just become you support it.
And yes, it is unfair, because it is unfair for all those promised the current system, not because I think it is unfair.
I did not use to word wrong, so dont try to setup strawman arguments. I used the word unfair. And using the reverse argument that you use. It ain't "right" just become you support it.
And yes, it is unfair, because it is unfair for all those promised the current system, not because I think it is unfair.
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