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vasa
09-20 02:43 PM
i had pleasuer to meet with aman/logic life/paskal/pappu. it made some good sense to put a face with the IV handle and it does helps a lot.
over all my experience was that all members (core and non core) worked earnestly to make anything and everything possible. i know it as i was outside the room where all the action was... and could see honesty in every action.
this will go down as long lasting memories with me...
thanks
vasa
over all my experience was that all members (core and non core) worked earnestly to make anything and everything possible. i know it as i was outside the room where all the action was... and could see honesty in every action.
this will go down as long lasting memories with me...
thanks
vasa
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apb
07-11 07:28 PM
http://lofgren.house.gov/PRArticle.aspx?NewsID=1810
appas123
08-05 11:29 AM
Same here, Iam Dec 2005 and still waiting ..........
I have been looking at number and the IV forum and there are very handful number of cases with December 2005 that have been touched.
I think we need to cheer up and be optimistic in addition to creating SR, senator route and infopass. I have a feeling that all the October, Nov and December cases might be in a single lump of files and we will get it in the next week or so.
Stay positive guys :)
I have been looking at number and the IV forum and there are very handful number of cases with December 2005 that have been touched.
I think we need to cheer up and be optimistic in addition to creating SR, senator route and infopass. I have a feeling that all the October, Nov and December cases might be in a single lump of files and we will get it in the next week or so.
Stay positive guys :)
2011 of Jersey City 1902-1907;
leoindiano
09-02 06:47 PM
My PD is Mar-04, RD=14Aug07
On USCIS status, it says.." On October 11, 2007, we received this I485..." .
Processing time for TSC is Aug07.. Does this mean my case will not processed now?
I am in same boat. Was your case transferred to EAC and then came back to TSC?
On USCIS status, it says.." On October 11, 2007, we received this I485..." .
Processing time for TSC is Aug07.. Does this mean my case will not processed now?
I am in same boat. Was your case transferred to EAC and then came back to TSC?
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hopefulgc
09-03 12:11 PM
Well, asking who Hugh hefner is a cardinal sin for anybody who is a guy... God knows I grew up looking at his creations in a magazine until I met "my bunny".
Asked to choose between "approval" & a visit to the bunnie mansion, i am gonna be so confused.................. about what to wear to the mansion that is ..:D:D:D:D:D:D
Hugh Hefner ( dont ask me who he is ) got dumped by every damn girl in his high school, right now go figure
point is you might be the next hugh hefner of green card :p
Asked to choose between "approval" & a visit to the bunnie mansion, i am gonna be so confused.................. about what to wear to the mansion that is ..:D:D:D:D:D:D
Hugh Hefner ( dont ask me who he is ) got dumped by every damn girl in his high school, right now go figure
point is you might be the next hugh hefner of green card :p
gapala
04-08 07:31 PM
Can you please let us know the procedure? I'm very much interested in filing a formal complaint with the CIS and Ombudsman. I'm not against genuine candidates getting their GC through MNC executive category, but would like to stop this malpractice.
Guys, here the form to file a complaint on L1A - EB1 misuse by indian IT companies
http://www.dol.gov/esa/whd/forms/wh-4.pdf
Here's the process..http://www.dol.gov/esa/whd/forms/fts_wh4.htm
If you have a genuine case and know the company name who resort to these shady practices, Please fill this form and send it across to DOL. You do not need to provide your personal information if you are not willing to.
Rest, they will investigate and take care..
I am one of those who couldn't file in EB1 but that is past and long gone for me.
Guys, here the form to file a complaint on L1A - EB1 misuse by indian IT companies
http://www.dol.gov/esa/whd/forms/wh-4.pdf
Here's the process..http://www.dol.gov/esa/whd/forms/fts_wh4.htm
If you have a genuine case and know the company name who resort to these shady practices, Please fill this form and send it across to DOL. You do not need to provide your personal information if you are not willing to.
Rest, they will investigate and take care..
I am one of those who couldn't file in EB1 but that is past and long gone for me.
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Naruto
05-16 09:34 PM
Pls post this information on other websites and forums as well so that people can start calling
We do not enough people calling as per the poll above
called and left messages. when is the vote on this bill is going to be casted? anyone knows? thanks
We do not enough people calling as per the poll above
called and left messages. when is the vote on this bill is going to be casted? anyone knows? thanks
2010 of Jersey City 1902-1907;
StarSun
03-25 12:47 AM
I respect bitzbytz's view. IMHO, Pappu's post shows too much arrogance in IV.
Btw, I have donated $100 towards advocacy.
Shows arrogance or frustration? Flip side of the same coin!
IV really needs people from KY, KS, TN, UT, AL, CO, AR - please help convince a friend or family from these states. Thanks.
Btw, I have donated $100 towards advocacy.
Shows arrogance or frustration? Flip side of the same coin!
IV really needs people from KY, KS, TN, UT, AL, CO, AR - please help convince a friend or family from these states. Thanks.
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pappu
12-19 11:48 AM
Today's count: Members: 7,627
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forever_waiting
01-12 06:22 PM
Yes. you are indeed having a discussion - a discussion with yourself because little of what you are saying is making any sense to anyone on this forum.
Yelling out a lie a hundred times doesnt make it the truth.
If you read IV's provisions, the one on tops is removal of per-country limits. Basically, it would remove all EB3 backlogs and WAS a part of the legislation introducted by rep lofgren in 2007/2008. for political reasons, it never passed in the house. Of course, you would blame IV for lobbying in such a way that the bills did not pass.
its very easy to criticise. Why dont you start an organization that would (in your opinion) do more for EB3? I am sure you will get the support of the thousands you claim do not believe in IV? If you succeed in doing that, there is no reason to have this "discussion".
you are a typical arm-chair critic who probably has done and will never do anything even one cents worth for the EB backlog cause.
Yes and you are showing your maturity by talking about what i write as a long essay and garbage. Why are EB2 guys scared to have a dicsussion. Is it because you donot have any talking points and are talking vaguly yourselves
BTW the reason i write so detailed is because i believe i am respecting you by replying in detail to your points. I was under the impression that we were having a discussion, but sadly i am having a disucssion and you are ranting and raving.
Yelling out a lie a hundred times doesnt make it the truth.
If you read IV's provisions, the one on tops is removal of per-country limits. Basically, it would remove all EB3 backlogs and WAS a part of the legislation introducted by rep lofgren in 2007/2008. for political reasons, it never passed in the house. Of course, you would blame IV for lobbying in such a way that the bills did not pass.
its very easy to criticise. Why dont you start an organization that would (in your opinion) do more for EB3? I am sure you will get the support of the thousands you claim do not believe in IV? If you succeed in doing that, there is no reason to have this "discussion".
you are a typical arm-chair critic who probably has done and will never do anything even one cents worth for the EB backlog cause.
Yes and you are showing your maturity by talking about what i write as a long essay and garbage. Why are EB2 guys scared to have a dicsussion. Is it because you donot have any talking points and are talking vaguly yourselves
BTW the reason i write so detailed is because i believe i am respecting you by replying in detail to your points. I was under the impression that we were having a discussion, but sadly i am having a disucssion and you are ranting and raving.
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sayantan76
04-10 09:26 PM
You are right. But many people came here at the middle of their carrier and they are struck here with their children education etc., They are bound to be here and there is no way. Further, in my country, there are still reservation policies in everything, which may prevent the kids in going in for the education line they like. I donot want to explain this more as I may be degrading my own mother country. In a nutshell, everyone who wish to be a citizen of this country will have lot of valid reasons for getting a citizenship in this country.
isn't the effect of reservation the same as the effect of affirmative action?
If your kid gets high scores in SAT but does not get into an ivy league college because your ethnicity is over-represented - but some other kid with much lower scores gets in (and its not a hypothetical scenario - happens every admission season and i sincerely hope does not happen to your loved ones).....where does that leave your logic??
i see your point that people do have their own reasons for desiring US citizenships - but sometimes its also important to take a step back and see what one is giving up!
isn't the effect of reservation the same as the effect of affirmative action?
If your kid gets high scores in SAT but does not get into an ivy league college because your ethnicity is over-represented - but some other kid with much lower scores gets in (and its not a hypothetical scenario - happens every admission season and i sincerely hope does not happen to your loved ones).....where does that leave your logic??
i see your point that people do have their own reasons for desiring US citizenships - but sometimes its also important to take a step back and see what one is giving up!
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gr_b
03-29 11:34 AM
did u e-mail them this week?Is ur application registered in their system....I mailed mine on 25th and it was delivered on 26th and I am wondering when it would be in their system???
Yes and also I contacted them via phone.
One lady picked up and told me that my application was not reigstered and it might be in return mail..She said recently they are sending the application back if the photos come as black when scanned using their scanner. She told me to contact mail room but no luck in reaching them..Its always busy and going to voice mail..
i've sent another email about mail room contact..I've got response and asked my number and the rep will ask the mail room to contact me directly....I'm hoping to hear from them..
Yes and also I contacted them via phone.
One lady picked up and told me that my application was not reigstered and it might be in return mail..She said recently they are sending the application back if the photos come as black when scanned using their scanner. She told me to contact mail room but no luck in reaching them..Its always busy and going to voice mail..
i've sent another email about mail room contact..I've got response and asked my number and the rep will ask the mail room to contact me directly....I'm hoping to hear from them..
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satishku_2000
06-14 02:24 PM
I can't tell you how p***d I was when I read someone suggesting ppl to "enjoy the moment". For someone who has been waiting 3-4 years for labor to clear and sees ppl getting in front of the line to get the EAD/AP, its just insane. And to tell that person to be not a "spoilsport" is just rubbing salt in their wounds!
To my friends who are still stuck in PBEC, please have faith. You will hopefully be able to file 485 even after Sept when the dates retrogress again. My gut feeling is that dates will retrogress back to 2004 again. 2005 is when PERM started and that's where the bulk of applicants will come from right now. PERM filers will get the advantage of AC21 that you didn't have for all these years but plight of ppl stuck in BEC's has never been on anyone's agenda. So not much you can do.
In this process everyone gets screwed onetime or other . Everyone knows that dates will move back but the advantage of filing now is the applications enter into preprocessing stage after 10 months or whatever.
People should look at anywhere between 3 to 10 years depending on priority date to get GC.
To my friends who are still stuck in PBEC, please have faith. You will hopefully be able to file 485 even after Sept when the dates retrogress again. My gut feeling is that dates will retrogress back to 2004 again. 2005 is when PERM started and that's where the bulk of applicants will come from right now. PERM filers will get the advantage of AC21 that you didn't have for all these years but plight of ppl stuck in BEC's has never been on anyone's agenda. So not much you can do.
In this process everyone gets screwed onetime or other . Everyone knows that dates will move back but the advantage of filing now is the applications enter into preprocessing stage after 10 months or whatever.
People should look at anywhere between 3 to 10 years depending on priority date to get GC.
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MeraNaamJoker
08-05 05:35 PM
Keep us posted.
I spoke with IO on 3rd, initiated SR on 4th, initiated congressional request today i.e. 5th. My Infopass is on 11th. Will complete 10 years in US on 13th. Birthday few days after that. So I guess something should work...ROFL...
PD: December 2005.
Arae mere pyaara bhaai,
I am completing 10 years in GC process in September 22, 2010.:cool:
How about that?
Before the first application gets to process, I left the company and joined another company. The GC which I am waiting for since then was filed by the second company. They filed it on EB3 eventhough I was eligible for EB2 for "easier processing". At that time both EB2 and EB3 were current. And it remained the same way till I got my labor approved the very same month it went into retrogression. Since then I am waiting.
By the way, my first company sold the labor they filed for me for $15K dollars to another guy. He got his GC in 2005 and just 2 months back he became an US Citizen.
That is a long story told short....
I spoke with IO on 3rd, initiated SR on 4th, initiated congressional request today i.e. 5th. My Infopass is on 11th. Will complete 10 years in US on 13th. Birthday few days after that. So I guess something should work...ROFL...
PD: December 2005.
Arae mere pyaara bhaai,
I am completing 10 years in GC process in September 22, 2010.:cool:
How about that?
Before the first application gets to process, I left the company and joined another company. The GC which I am waiting for since then was filed by the second company. They filed it on EB3 eventhough I was eligible for EB2 for "easier processing". At that time both EB2 and EB3 were current. And it remained the same way till I got my labor approved the very same month it went into retrogression. Since then I am waiting.
By the way, my first company sold the labor they filed for me for $15K dollars to another guy. He got his GC in 2005 and just 2 months back he became an US Citizen.
That is a long story told short....
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SGP
04-15 05:01 AM
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$GOOD MORNING GC$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Deadline = April 30th, 2011
Goal = 5000 votes on survey (see I-485 filing w/o current PD thread) and momentum to continue with this campaign.The survey is a platform to gather and push for launching action items. Based on response by 04/30/2011 - IV will decide whether to even proceed with initiative or not.
Actions - 1) Vote on survey.
2)Email ivcoordinator@gmail.com with PD, ph#,email & subject "I485 filing impacted�,
3)Print/Circulate Fliers and spread FB, wiki link (see "support thread")
This is a supporting thread to the "Want to File I-485 without Current Priority Date? Gather here" thread started by pappu.
As suggested by pappu/starsun, this supporting thread provides impacted members with additional information and tools to help the initiative.
Visit Immigration Voice Wiki (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/index.php/Employment_Based_Green_Card#Process_.28EB1.2C_EB2. 2C_and_EB3.29) - for overview of Employment Based - Green Card process
Visit I485 Filing w/o current PD Wiki (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/index.php/Current_Grass-Roots_Initiative_-_I-485_Filing_without_Current_Priority_Date) - for overview of this initiative
As pappu stated in the first post of the above referenced thread - some of the ongoing efforts include finding how many IV members would get benefit from such a provision and get basic details such as username/Priority Date of impacted members. Future action items might include drafting documents and letters to support this provision. There maybe actions such as sending emails etc. However we would not be able to open a public action item unless we can have thousands of our members willing to participate in a grassroots action item. This survey intends to understand the needs of our membership for this provision and collect grassroots information.
The fact is we have a dedicated group of volunteers (and we need more) who have been trying their best to spread the message about this initiative so that a strong grass-roots support can be created leading up to launch of the public action items. So far we have around 1100 people who have responded. Based on quick calculations carried out using PERM data, it is estimated that there are at least 60K-70K EB applicants waiting to file I-485/EAD/AP (this is a very conservative estimate..the actual number could be much more). Grass-roots initiatives require time and patience and we request maximum number of impacted folks to participate actively.
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What can you do to participate?
1) Vote on the poll/survey created by Pappu.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum14-members-forum/1599353-want-to-file-485-when-pd-is-not-current-gather-here.html
Then please send an email to ivcoordinator@gmail.com (starsun) with subject - "I485 filing without current PD - Impacted Member". Include your a) IV username b) Email address c) Phone #, d) State of Residence e) Priority Date - so that grassroot efforts can be coordinated
2) Print out below Flier and circulate at all asian/indian malls/groceries/theaters. Forward the flier to your friends/co-workers and ask them to do the same.
I485 Filing Initiative Flier (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/images/a/a8/Flier_I485_latest2.pdf)
3) Volunteers have created a facebook community and an Immigration Voice WIKI page to spread the message about this initiative. Please circulate these links among your friends/co-workers who will be helped.
Please "Share" and "Link" and "send to friend" the facebook community via your Facebook account. Also include these two links when you post on the IV forum.
Facebook - IV I485 filing w/o current PD initiative community (http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/pages/Immigration-Voice-Grass-roots-Campaigns/150562351660693?v=info)
(Just FYI that you might have to be logged in for the above link to direct to the facebook community. Alternately, search for "Immigration Voice Grass-roots Campaigns" to find the community after logging in. Search "Immigration Voice" to go to the IV's main facebook page)
Immigration Wiki -
I485 Filing Initiative - IV Wiki (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/index.php/Current_Grass-Roots_Initiative_-_I-485_Filing_without_Current_Priority_Date)
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PM these members for additional info:
nmdial ; geevikram ; vbkris77 ; ashwin_27 ; snathan
Dedicated members can also join the leaders group: http://groups.google.com/group/485-filing-iv-initiative
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Deadline = April 30th, 2011
Goal = 5000 votes on survey (see I-485 filing w/o current PD thread) and momentum to continue with this campaign.The survey is a platform to gather and push for launching action items. Based on response by 04/30/2011 - IV will decide whether to even proceed with initiative or not.
Actions - 1) Vote on survey.
2)Email ivcoordinator@gmail.com with PD, ph#,email & subject "I485 filing impacted�,
3)Print/Circulate Fliers and spread FB, wiki link (see "support thread")
This is a supporting thread to the "Want to File I-485 without Current Priority Date? Gather here" thread started by pappu.
As suggested by pappu/starsun, this supporting thread provides impacted members with additional information and tools to help the initiative.
Visit Immigration Voice Wiki (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/index.php/Employment_Based_Green_Card#Process_.28EB1.2C_EB2. 2C_and_EB3.29) - for overview of Employment Based - Green Card process
Visit I485 Filing w/o current PD Wiki (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/index.php/Current_Grass-Roots_Initiative_-_I-485_Filing_without_Current_Priority_Date) - for overview of this initiative
As pappu stated in the first post of the above referenced thread - some of the ongoing efforts include finding how many IV members would get benefit from such a provision and get basic details such as username/Priority Date of impacted members. Future action items might include drafting documents and letters to support this provision. There maybe actions such as sending emails etc. However we would not be able to open a public action item unless we can have thousands of our members willing to participate in a grassroots action item. This survey intends to understand the needs of our membership for this provision and collect grassroots information.
The fact is we have a dedicated group of volunteers (and we need more) who have been trying their best to spread the message about this initiative so that a strong grass-roots support can be created leading up to launch of the public action items. So far we have around 1100 people who have responded. Based on quick calculations carried out using PERM data, it is estimated that there are at least 60K-70K EB applicants waiting to file I-485/EAD/AP (this is a very conservative estimate..the actual number could be much more). Grass-roots initiatives require time and patience and we request maximum number of impacted folks to participate actively.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
What can you do to participate?
1) Vote on the poll/survey created by Pappu.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum14-members-forum/1599353-want-to-file-485-when-pd-is-not-current-gather-here.html
Then please send an email to ivcoordinator@gmail.com (starsun) with subject - "I485 filing without current PD - Impacted Member". Include your a) IV username b) Email address c) Phone #, d) State of Residence e) Priority Date - so that grassroot efforts can be coordinated
2) Print out below Flier and circulate at all asian/indian malls/groceries/theaters. Forward the flier to your friends/co-workers and ask them to do the same.
I485 Filing Initiative Flier (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/images/a/a8/Flier_I485_latest2.pdf)
3) Volunteers have created a facebook community and an Immigration Voice WIKI page to spread the message about this initiative. Please circulate these links among your friends/co-workers who will be helped.
Please "Share" and "Link" and "send to friend" the facebook community via your Facebook account. Also include these two links when you post on the IV forum.
Facebook - IV I485 filing w/o current PD initiative community (http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/pages/Immigration-Voice-Grass-roots-Campaigns/150562351660693?v=info)
(Just FYI that you might have to be logged in for the above link to direct to the facebook community. Alternately, search for "Immigration Voice Grass-roots Campaigns" to find the community after logging in. Search "Immigration Voice" to go to the IV's main facebook page)
Immigration Wiki -
I485 Filing Initiative - IV Wiki (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/index.php/Current_Grass-Roots_Initiative_-_I-485_Filing_without_Current_Priority_Date)
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PM these members for additional info:
nmdial ; geevikram ; vbkris77 ; ashwin_27 ; snathan
Dedicated members can also join the leaders group: http://groups.google.com/group/485-filing-iv-initiative
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appas123
08-05 11:17 AM
I guess, it is the 13th ....such an unlucky number.:eek:.Just kidding..When all of us are so anxious about this..I can't even begin to imagine what our EB-3 friends are going through. Especially to whose who have been waiting for almost a decade (or more) and still stuck..
I guess, we should take all this news with a pinch of salt..
Cheers
It looks like November 2005, Jan 2006 and Feb 2006 priority dates are somehow lumped together. Of course mine is December and far be it from being even considered :)
gbof and anilkumar... I think this is the hardest wait for us. I hope the two of you and all others get approved soon enough.
I guess, we should take all this news with a pinch of salt..
Cheers
It looks like November 2005, Jan 2006 and Feb 2006 priority dates are somehow lumped together. Of course mine is December and far be it from being even considered :)
gbof and anilkumar... I think this is the hardest wait for us. I hope the two of you and all others get approved soon enough.
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vik_tx
05-17 12:43 AM
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gc_bucs
01-20 06:31 PM
Contributed $300.00 today via paypal.
For those who care to know: Receipt ID: 5303-6905-9109-0833
Contributions till date: $500.00
For those who care to know: Receipt ID: 5303-6905-9109-0833
Contributions till date: $500.00
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pappu
04-07 12:38 PM
Comments are welcome.
However in order to work on an issue, the push and support must come from members needing it. For that we will need support of Greencard holders who think that this an issue for them and they are willing to participate and support IV to go all the way. Right now we have our hands full with current IV agenda and need to accomplish those with our limited resources
However in order to work on an issue, the push and support must come from members needing it. For that we will need support of Greencard holders who think that this an issue for them and they are willing to participate and support IV to go all the way. Right now we have our hands full with current IV agenda and need to accomplish those with our limited resources
brb2
04-08 05:54 AM
I will back you up on this:)
Unless one has studied in the US, one will not realize the worth of the US educational system. One clear attribute of US educated professionals is their superior written and verbal communication skills. Not to mention the enhanced ability to culturally fit in a diverse environment.
Unintentional, might be, but you did ruffle this topic of US Master's vs US Non-Master's with this rather sad comment (warm spit!). I dont want to go much further into this either but talking about something that you obviously dont know (useless subjects 'assembly language programming'), you havent added any valule addition here either. (Just FYI, even during peak recession, ppl with ALP skills were really very few because most of the direct recruits from '6 month NIIT courses' werent upto system level programming).
And btw, if think that a 6 month course in NIIT with a degree in tier 3 university is going to help get a job during times of recession, then i dont know what to tell you.
Yes, i do have an MS degree from the US and i did suffer lay-off during recession - bounce back, i did really quickly while i saw few ppl that only had '6 month courses from NIIT' suffer for long times without a job because all they had to offer was that...their six month experience at NIIT!!
Btw, i do appreciate all the work that you do and all your postings too, but i felt that i had to give a riposte to something that i find insinuating and written without a whole lot of thought....
Unless one has studied in the US, one will not realize the worth of the US educational system. One clear attribute of US educated professionals is their superior written and verbal communication skills. Not to mention the enhanced ability to culturally fit in a diverse environment.
Unintentional, might be, but you did ruffle this topic of US Master's vs US Non-Master's with this rather sad comment (warm spit!). I dont want to go much further into this either but talking about something that you obviously dont know (useless subjects 'assembly language programming'), you havent added any valule addition here either. (Just FYI, even during peak recession, ppl with ALP skills were really very few because most of the direct recruits from '6 month NIIT courses' werent upto system level programming).
And btw, if think that a 6 month course in NIIT with a degree in tier 3 university is going to help get a job during times of recession, then i dont know what to tell you.
Yes, i do have an MS degree from the US and i did suffer lay-off during recession - bounce back, i did really quickly while i saw few ppl that only had '6 month courses from NIIT' suffer for long times without a job because all they had to offer was that...their six month experience at NIIT!!
Btw, i do appreciate all the work that you do and all your postings too, but i felt that i had to give a riposte to something that i find insinuating and written without a whole lot of thought....
amitjoey
01-18 03:41 PM
No offense, but, I would continue or increase my contribution, not because someone else is doing so or not doing so, or not if I would I get a tax break or not, but just because of my sheer appreciation of the IV core group's amazing efforts.
I have not (in the recent past) seen such a group of dedicated, decent and diginified people working together in a selfless manner to achieve something not only for their own good but for the good of hundreds and thousands of their fellow "sometimes not so polite, not so patient" sufferers.
I see my contribution to IV something similar to a contribution to a church or a temple. You give, not so that you'll benefit out of it, but because at the end of the day it is money well spent for a good cause.
If you benefit out of the efforts possible by your contribution, that's a nice bonus.
I don't look at my contribution as "I pay $20 I should get $100 in return".
For me, it is not an investment, but a good expenditure for worthy cause.
Thank you so much for saying this. Worthy cause-yes- is it not our cause!?
guys, come on you are all members here, because you want relief from retrogression. It is your cause.
I have not (in the recent past) seen such a group of dedicated, decent and diginified people working together in a selfless manner to achieve something not only for their own good but for the good of hundreds and thousands of their fellow "sometimes not so polite, not so patient" sufferers.
I see my contribution to IV something similar to a contribution to a church or a temple. You give, not so that you'll benefit out of it, but because at the end of the day it is money well spent for a good cause.
If you benefit out of the efforts possible by your contribution, that's a nice bonus.
I don't look at my contribution as "I pay $20 I should get $100 in return".
For me, it is not an investment, but a good expenditure for worthy cause.
Thank you so much for saying this. Worthy cause-yes- is it not our cause!?
guys, come on you are all members here, because you want relief from retrogression. It is your cause.
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